HOW SHOULD WE APPROACH POLICY TOWARD CHINA?

I watched the debate tonight and when I heard this come out of Romney s mouth, I gave a big FYou and it just gave me more reason not to vote.

 

It’s pretty sad when Romney is worried about the 20 thousand and quickly changed his words to  20 Million unemployed Farmers, coming to the city looking for work in China and not the unemployed in the country he lives.

 

Why aren’t they talking about this and how can anyone in their right mind see past what was said and still support him?  

 

 

 

00:00:00 WE HAVE TO REMAIN VIGILANT, AS I JUST SAID.
00:00:04 WITH RESPECT TO CHINA, CHINA IS BOTH AN ADVERSARY BUT ALSO A POTENTIAL PARTNER IN THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY IF IT’S FOLLOWING THE RULES.
00:00:15 MY ATTITUDE COMING INTO OFFICE WAS THAT WE ARE GOING TO INSIST THAT CHINA PLAYS BY THE SAME RULES AS EVERYBODY ELSE.
00:00:23 I KNOW AMERICANS HAVE SEEN IT.
00:00:26 JOBS BEING SHIPPED OVERSEAS, BUSINESSES AND WORKERS NOT GETTING A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD WHEN IT CAME TO TRADE.
00:00:35 THAT IS THE REASON WHY I SET UP A TRADE PASS — TASK FORCE TO GO AFTER CHEATERS WHEN IT CAME TO INTERNATIONAL TRADE.
00:00:44 THAT IS WHY WE HAVE BROUGHT MORE CASES AGAINST CHINA FOR VIOLATING TRADE RULES THAN THE OTHER — THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION HAD DONE IN TWO TERMS AND WE WON JUST ABOUT EVERY CASE THE FILE THAT HAS BEEN DECIDED.
00:00:58 RECENTLY, STEEL WORKERS IN OHIO AND THROUGHOUT THE MIDWEST ARE IN A POSITION NOW TO SELL STEEL TO CHINA BECAUSE WE WON THAT CASE.
00:01:06 WE HAD A TIRE CASE WHERE THEY WERE FLOODING US WITH CHEAP CHINESE TIRES.
00:01:13 WE PUT A STOP TO IT.
00:01:15 AS A CONSEQUENCE, SAVED JOBS THROUGHOUT AMERICA.
00:01:19 I HAVE TO SAY THAT GOVERNOR ROMNEY CRITICIZED ME FOR BEING TOO TOUGH IN THAT CASE, SAID THIS WOULD NOT BE GOOD FOR AMERICAN WORKERS.
00:01:29 I TELL YOU THOSE WORKERS DO NOT FEEL THAT WAY.
00:01:31 THEY FEEL AS IF THEY HAD — FINALLY THE ADMINISTRATION WAS GOING TO TAKE THIS ISSUE SERIOUSLY.
00:01:39 OVER THE LONG TERM FOR US TO COMPETE WITH CHINA, WE ALSO HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE TAKING CARE BUSINESS AT HOME.
00:01:46 IF WE DO NOT HAVE THE BEST EDUCATION SYSTEM IN THE VAULT, IF WE DO NOT CONTINUE TO PUT MONEY INTO RESEARCH — SYSTEM IN THE WORLD, IF WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO PUT MONEY INTO RESEARCH, THAT IS HOW WE LOSE THE COMPETITION.
00:02:00 UNFORTUNATELY, GOVERNOR ROMNEY’S BUDGET AND HIS PROPOSALS WOULD NOT ALLOW US TO MAKE THOSE INVESTMENTS.
00:02:06 >> GOVERNOR PIERRE >> IT IS NOT A GOVERNMENT THAT MAKES BUSINESS SUCCESSFUL.
00:02:12 — >> GOVERNOR.
00:02:15 >> IT IS NOT A GOVERNMENT THAT MAKES BUSINESS SUCCESSFUL.
00:02:19 THE GREATEST NATIONAL THREAT IS A NUCLEAR IRAN.
00:02:23 LET’S TALK ABOUT CHINA. CHINA HAS AN INTEREST VERY MUCH LIKE OURS.
00:02:26 THAT IS THEY WANT TO — THEY WANT A STABLE WORLD.
00:02:32 THEY DO NOT WANT TO SEE THE WORLD BREAK OUT INTO VARIOUS FORMS OF CHAOS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO MANUFACTURE GOODS AND PUT PEOPLE TO WORK.
00:02:41 THEY HAVE 20 MILLION PEOPLE COMING OUT OF FORMS EVERY YEAR.

There Are 100 Million Working Age Americans That Do Not Have Jobs 

The unemployment crisis in America is much worse than you are being told.  Did you know that there are 100 million working age Americans that do not get up in the morning and go to work?  No wonder why it seems like there are so many people that do not have jobs!  According to the federal government, there are 12.6 million working age Americans that are considered to be “officially” unemployed, but there are another 87.8 million working age Americans that are not working either. 

00:02:44 COMING INTO THE CITIES, NEEDING JOBS. More from C-Span

CherH, 10/12/2012 03:54 PM

I, too, had been part of the long-term unemployed. People who didn’t know me assumed I wasn’t looking or wasn’t trying ‘hard enough.’  I wasn’t rusty, my skills weren’t outdated. As one honest HR person said, “We’re trained to avoid people with job gaps. We can’t just change that all at once.” The long-term unemployed have had four years to adjust to a new reality. It’s time business caught up.

Romney and Obama both give speeches at the NALEO Conference hoping to gain votes.

All I have to say about this speech Obama gave was WHAT and who the hell does he think he is kidding when saying 

'President says immigrants don't come to America looking for a handout - they come with dreams & a willingness to work hard' 

The Immigrants and Illegals that come to America certainly aren't refusing all the Government Handouts, Grants to start businesses,  Tax free living for 5 to 7 years, Under The Table Jobs which shall I remind you is breaking a Federal Law which you seem to have no problem with!    

What about the Citizens of The United States of America don't you think they are looking for jobs they have been laid off of and are qualified for, tax cuts,  Paid  Higher Education.  Don't you also believe that most of the National Debt happened giving all of these Immigrants, Illegals, Refugees, Asylum Seekers.  Keys to the Federal Reserve, or access to SSI when they have not paid a dime into Social Security or Paid Taxes to the I.R.S. and  Uncle Sam.

Do Illegal Immigrants Pay Taxes?

Yes, illegal (undocumented/unauthorized) immigrants generally pay taxes the same way you and I pay them, but without access to most of the benefits that normally come with being a taxpayer.Once again MY ASS, many get Government Assistance.

Here’s how they pay:

Income Tax: Every time you receive a paycheck, you probably notice that something is missing. That’s because your employer automatically withholds federal, state, and local income taxes and Social Security and Medicare taxes. Immigrants also have money automatically deducted directly from their paychecks —even those who are here illegally. But how? Well, the Social Security Administration estimates that 75% of undocumented immigrants are actually on formal payrolls and are paid by check just like anyone else. They get on the payroll by using fake or fraudulent social security numbers or social security numbers of the deceased,which are easily available from counterfeiters for a couple hundred dollars. A growing number of undocumented immigrants now file their income taxes using Individual Taxpayer Identification Numbers (ITINs). ITINs areissued by the IRS for filing purposes only and do not provide permission to work. According to the most recent estimates, at least 3 million unauthorized immigrants filed income taxes using ITINs in 2009. (NOTE: the IRS does not report undocumented immigrants to the Department of Homeland Security.)

Sales Tax: Every time you buy something, you pay sales tax. That money goes to state and local governments. Staying at a hotel or renting a car, you pay state and local taxes. If you fill up your gas tank, you automatically pay state and federal gasoline taxes. If you buy liquor or cigarettes, you automatically pay various local, state, and federal excise taxes. Immigrants—legal and illegal—all buy things, and thus pay these taxes as part of their purchase.

The two articles  that I'm going to use are just examples one from 1999 and one  from 2009 so I'm very sure the dollar amounts are much higher. Oh yeah I forgot, they aren't looking for handouts my ass!

State Assistance for Immigrants under Welfare Reform  Publication Date: April 01, 1999

Overview

For immigrants, the passage of federal welfare reform meant much more than ending the entitlement to cash assistance. The law restricted noncitizen eligibility for a wide range of public programs, including Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), food stamps, Supplemental Security Income (SSI), and Medicaid, and it gave states broad new authority to set social welfare policy for immigrants.

Since the law's enactment, the President and Congress have restored many, but not all, of the benefits from which immigrants were originally barred. Many children, elderly, and disabled immigrants have had their eligibility for food stamps and SSI restored. But most working-age adults remain ineligible for food stamps and most immigrants entering the United States after the law's passage are ineligible for the major federal assistance programs for at least five years.

How Much Do Illegal Immigrants REALLY Cost the United States?

February 11, 2009 by Bob Livingston 

A report by the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) cited several interesting statistics based on census data. Some of these facts may be familiar to long-time readers… but I wanted each of you to know the enormous costs placed on the United States…

Our government continues to claim that the war on terror is bankrupting us. But what about these numbers? You do the math…

• $11 billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments.
• Illegal households only pay about one-third the amount of federal taxes that non-illegal households pay.
• Illegal households create a net fiscal deficit at the federal level of more than $10 billion a year. If given amnesty, this number could grow to more than $29 billion.
• $1.9 billion dollars a year is spent on food-assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC and free school lunches for illegal aliens.

Terror Detainee and Defense Program Policies C-Span

Various Senators spoke on an amendment offered by Senator Mark Udall (D-CO) to S. 1867, a bill dealing with Defense programs and policy, including terror detainee policy. Senator Udall’s amendment would have stricken language from the bill allowing for indefinite detention of some terrorism suspects. The amendment failed by a vote of 37-61.

Full Text of the Udall Detainee Amendment
Senate Amendment #1107. Mr. UDALL of Colorado submitted an amendment intended to be proposed by him to the bill S. 1867, to authorize appropriations for fiscal year 2012 for military activities of the Department of Defense, for military construction, and for defense activities of the Department of Energy, to prescribe military personnel strengths for such fiscal year, and for other purposes; as follows:

Strike subtitle D of title X and insert the following:

Subtitle D–Detainee Matters

SEC. 1031. REVIEW OF AUTHORITY OF THE ARMED FORCES OF THE UNITED STATES TO DETAIN COVERED PERSONS PURSUANT TO THE AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF MILITARY FORCE.

(a) In General.–Not later than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Defense shall, in consultation with appropriate officials in the Executive Office of the President, the Director of National Intelligence, the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Homeland Security, and the Attorney General, submit to the appropriate committees of Congress a report setting forth the following:

Report Video Issue

S.1867

National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 (Engrossed in Senate [Passed Senate] – ES)

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SEC. 1032. REQUIREMENT FOR MILITARY CUSTODY.

(a) Custody Pending Disposition Under Law of War-

(1) IN GENERAL- Except as provided in paragraph (4), the Armed Forces of the United States shall hold a person described in paragraph (2) who is captured in the course of hostilities authorized by the Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107-40) in military custody pending disposition under the law of war.

(2) COVERED PERSONS- The requirement in paragraph (1) shall apply to any person whose detention is authorized under section 1031 who is determined–

(A) to be a member of, or part of, al-Qaeda or an associated force that acts in coordination with or pursuant to the direction of al-Qaeda; and

(B) to have participated in the course of planning or carrying out an attack or attempted attack against the United States or its coalition partners.

(3) DISPOSITION UNDER LAW OF WAR- For purposes of this subsection, the

disposition of a person under the law of war has the meaning given in section 1031(c), except that no transfer otherwise described in paragraph (4) of that section shall be made unless consistent with the requirements of section 1033.

(4) WAIVER FOR NATIONAL SECURITY- The Secretary of Defense may, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Director of National Intelligence, waive the requirement of paragraph (1) if the Secretary submits to Congress a certification in writing that such a waiver is in the national security interests of the United States.

(b) Applicability to United States Citizens and Lawful Resident Aliens-
(1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.

(2) LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to a lawful resident alien of the United States on the basis of conduct taking place within the United States, except to the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States.

(section 1031 wasn’t there or I would have posted that too)

I stand by what I said in the post I did about C-Span and our elected officials once again.  As important as this bill is to The Citizens of the United States of America.  Once again it doesn’t seem like there are that many elected officials present.  I wonder how many voted without reading this bill?  shera~